WARRIOR HELL

Zilver · Post by **Zilver** » 10 Dec 2006, 19:03

33k? thats quite a difference in 10 levels. You sure this pic aint fake?

Gorlom · Post by **Gorlom** » 10 Dec 2006, 19:10

how much hp does the flask + trinket give? does that shout give hp?

Zilver · Post by **Zilver** » 10 Dec 2006, 21:00

flask is 2k hp, the trinket is +15% hp if i remember correctly, the shout however is something new to me, no clue what that is.

psythe · Post by **psythe** » 10 Dec 2006, 21:03

Zilver wrote:flask is 2k hp, the trinket is +15% hp if i remember correctly, the shout however is something new to me, no clue what that is.

Commanding Shout - Rank 1
Requires Level 68
10 Rage
Instant cast
Increases total health of all party members within 20 yards by 730. Lasts 2 min.

Gorlom · Post by **Gorlom** » 10 Dec 2006, 23:55

well that +15% trinket and all the extra stamina on the TBC gear certainly boosts the hp by alot. without the buffs mentioned his hp would be at about 25k? with fortitude and mark of the wild.

trinket =0.15*33k=4650, flask=2k, shout=720

33k - 7.37k = 25.63k so ~ 25-26k

still seems an awful lot to me.

Gupim · Post by **Gupim** » 11 Dec 2006, 00:23

x*1.15=33k => x~=4,3k not 4,65k

so its even more than your sloppy calcs show

Gorlom · Post by **Gorlom** » 11 Dec 2006, 00:33

yeah i know =P i was just doing a rough estimate =P im fully aware that 15% of 115 isnt 15 =P

had too many decimals sorry about that il remove them right away.

stamina is worth about 100 hp for 10 stam right? so he has about 10 000 hp in just pure stamina.

where is the other 15k hp coming from?

oh yeah hes tauren. that gives him another x% ... before or after gear bonus?

Versus · Post by **Versus** » 11 Dec 2006, 01:04

last stand

Gorlom · Post by **Gorlom** » 11 Dec 2006, 01:38

is that the icon on the second row? didnt recognize that one.

Morlog · Post by **Morlog** » 11 Dec 2006, 21:14

someone started designing tserics talent tree

http://talents.unleashedgaming.net/?p=vt&i=1135

have a look

Kibs · Post by **Kibs** » 12 Dec 2006, 00:31

Morlog wrote:someone started designing tserics talent tree

http://talents.unleashedgaming.net/?p=vt&i=1135

have a look

awesome

Gorlom · Post by **Gorlom** » 12 Dec 2006, 08:22

=) fun but shouldnt it be in the allmighty thread of funny stuff?

Smooglab · Post by **Smooglab** » 12 Dec 2006, 13:12

Most threads on the WoWEurope.com forum have turned from whining about damage output into whining about threat. Quite interesting and funny to read at the same time.

Alot of Horde tanks have problems keeping aggro since 2.0, and here's the reason.

http://www.thottbot.com/beta?sp=25895

Tanking is balanced for lvl 70, and for horde it means Paladin on our side. Just to compare to the actual situation it means that yout favorite tank generate 43% more aggro.

Hordre tanking is screw'd since 2.0 and will remain broken, threat generation won't be upped. The think I can't bare is that Alliance side can continue PvE, as they remains the same regarding threat, but have the solution. Horde is left on the side. I suppose Devs just think it's acceptable to screw us to achieve balance.

I really feel for horde warriors now, with a lot of classes getting dps boost tanking has turned really hard, and ragestarvation is not makin it easier, completed mc & bwl since patch and i was really sweating to pull thru tanking, multiple trash is now with rage nerf just silly (no, never used the BS abuse). Even tho i have TF & defiance it SUCKS to tank right now.. For Hordies it must be pure horror. Worst was Raggy, no rage, GungHO nukage, i couldnt even see myself on KTM at one point.. thank god for tauntable bosses -.-

Before 2.0

Alliance
Dps : 70% threat
Tank : 100% threat
Horde
Dps : 100% threat (some with -20% but no WF/agi in this case)
Tank : 100%

After 2.0

Alliance
Dps 100%
Tank 100%
Horde
Dps 130%
Tank 100%

I'd love to have Paladins on my side, but for the moment it isn't the case. I understand that this unbalance is the consequence of balancing between faction but for the moment Horde tanking is FUBAR.

[source:] http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.htm ... 0278&sid=1

Morlog · Post by **Morlog** » 12 Dec 2006, 15:49

not only did they nerf battleshout aggro generating they also took a whack at demoshout

instead of it generating a flat number of say 400 hate it now does 400/x where x is the amount of mobs hit by the shout

fankriss will be entertaining im sure now

Kororo · Post by **Kororo** » 12 Dec 2006, 16:00

omg... Blizzard realy don't like (horde) warriors......

So, we need get new XP at the "agro management"
Warriors less agro (rage).... other classes get more dps together with less threat reduction.

I hope Blizzard is not intending to let WOW become a PVP-MMORPG