WARRIOR HELL

Smooglab · Post by **Smooglab** » 15 Dec 2006, 16:47

Some hope afterall?

Recklessness, no totems, zerkerbuff, MotW + Battle Shout.

Rogue "Elsinore"
Priest "Menna"
Warlock "AryÃƒÂ¡"
Warlock pet (?) "Bronevere"

Note the 2.2k soulfire hit.

Nevertheless, I won 3 vs 1.

Zilver · Post by **Zilver** » 15 Dec 2006, 17:27

Fenz wrote:L70 Execute in pvp

http://img214.imageshack.us/my.php?imag ... awlic2.jpg

tbh this still doesnt really say anything, were there buffs involved? How much rage was used in that execute? Was he enraged? How much armor did the target have?

My guess is that with 100 rage, executeing a naked warrior in bezerker stance with bezerker buff, and me buffed with all my cd's and being enraged, that i could reach that number now.

Post by **Fenz** » 15 Dec 2006, 18:19

Zilver wrote:
Fenz wrote:L70 Execute in pvp

http://img214.imageshack.us/my.php?imag ... awlic2.jpg
tbh this still doesnt really say anything, were there buffs involved? How much rage was used in that execute? Was he enraged? How much armor did the target have?

My guess is that with 100 rage, executeing a naked warrior in bezerker stance with bezerker buff, and me buffed with all my cd's and being enraged, that i could reach that number now.

We know your glass is always half empty!

Zilver · Post by **Zilver** » 15 Dec 2006, 19:22

when it comes to my char in this game yes

when it comes to real life..never!

i'm having a nice day, how about you?

Smooglab · Post by **Smooglab** » 16 Dec 2006, 19:43

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/threa ... 1&pageNo=1

Smooglab · Post by **Smooglab** » 19 Dec 2006, 15:49

"Power" of devastate:

Kororo · Post by **Kororo** » 19 Dec 2006, 16:04

So who cares about the crits of mages if you have this amount of HP:

Larona · Post by **Larona** » 19 Dec 2006, 16:05

http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.htm ... 9409&sid=1

btw logged my warr for the 1st time since patch.
my comment for now: "Not enough rage."

Larona · Post by **Larona** » 19 Dec 2006, 16:06

Kororo see: http://www.sinister-ministry.com/phpBB2 ... 9228#39228

don't worry thats nerfed already.

Smooglab · Post by **Smooglab** » 19 Dec 2006, 16:25

Not only is it nerfed already, also in that gear it will take an hour to kill a mage if the mage was standing still and not doing anything. I'm also guessing that it would be impossible to kill a mage in this gear if the mage did nothing but recast manashield/frost-shield-thingy.

Btw, nice thread Yuv.

Bit confused about
Devastate Rank 1 (lvl 50) 73 72,8-73.4 threat
Devastate Rank 2 (lvl 60) 47 46.66-47.64 threat
Devastate Rank 3 (lvl 70) 27 26.84-27.12 threat
though.

That means you're better off not buying higher ranks?

Kororo · Post by **Kororo** » 19 Dec 2006, 16:32

why should you have to kill a mage? Just don't. Do what you are good at.... take damage, stay alive, grab agro, stay on front, protect your mages/priests/locks etc. Let others do damage.

Smooglab · Post by **Smooglab** » 19 Dec 2006, 16:47

Kororo wrote:why should you have to kill a mage? Just don't. Do what you are good at.... take damage, stay alive, grab agro, stay on front, protect your mages/priests/locks etc. Let others do damage.

Basicly you're saying that warriors are useless in 1 vs. 1 PvP. And in group PvP they are now useless as well, since why would you heal a warrior if you can do more damage casting smite's?

Also, with the some hidden, some non hidden, warrior threat nerfs, other classes threat gains (paladins, druids) and dps classes dps gain warriors will no longer be tank number 1 in TBC.

So to summarize, what Blizzard has done:
- They made warriors, no matter what spec, useless in 1 vs 1 PvP against players of the same level/gear (some level 70 warriors even get beaten by level <68 in the Beta, and there's not much they can do about it).
- They are taking away our usefulness as a tank in PvE, by a) not letting our abilities scale with our gear and b) giving hybrid classes better aggro abilities then us.
- Nerfing our PvE DPS with 30-50%.

All evidence for these causes can be found on the EU or US Blizzard Warrior forums. With screenshots/movies if you don't believe me. ^^

Kororo · Post by **Kororo** » 19 Dec 2006, 16:56

I feel sorry for warriors.... I hope blizzard will wake up and do something about it.

Smooglab · Post by **Smooglab** » 19 Dec 2006, 17:14

That's exactly what most people are trying/hoping for.

Just read the first page(s) of the EU warrior forum (link).

Notice threads like:
- A few easy warrior fixes (constructive)
- DO THESE FORUMS GET READ?
- Loatheb DPS after 2.0.1
- Paladins - Devs fails once again
- BC:70 Warrior MS vs Feral Druid 68
- Non-Scaling Aggro issue (long)
- Idea, Threat scaling with +Defence?
- Dots. Blizzard. Explain.
- Warriors The Easy KIll
etc.

All of them require complaints with constructive feedback - do they have ny form of blue response?

And btw what is 33k hitpoints FULLY buffed (incl. cooldowns) when mages can do this at level 60? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HXzzo8vas0

psythe · Post by **psythe** » 20 Dec 2006, 00:10

bugged rampage ftw? =P
http://warcraftmovies.com/stream.php?id=33248

ive managed to get 15232 atk power in rfd but the mobs ran out after that so rampage faded :/